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I’ve at all times thought-about what my journey can be for the “after occasions,” however I suppose I by no means thought-about what I might put in it to maintain it working.

lotusseven7 (Forum Supporter)

That image jogs my memory of one of many outdated deserted gasoline stations from the film The Final Chase. It is one that the majority have most likely by no means seen. It stars Lee Majors and a Porsche 917-10 “clone”. Tacky film from again in 1981. Go look it up all you automotive guys……

David S. Wallens

Colin Wooden stated:

I’ve at all times thought-about what my journey can be for the “after occasions,” however I suppose I by no means thought-about what I might put in it to maintain it working.

See, precisely. Positive, you will have already deliberate out your DeathMobile, however how will you retain it working? Cannot outrun the mutants in case you’re outta gasoline. 

ChrisTropea

What a couple of wooden powered engine? 

 

Gearheadotaku (Forum Supporter)

3 selections.

1. Discover a producing oil effectively and construct a refinery there. (Do not understand how, however there should be a low tech means to do that. You most likely will not get 100 octane race gasoline although)

2. Begin disilling alcohol, hope you will have subject of grain and sugar cane.

3. Take over a hydroelectric dam. Plenty of energy for an electrical automotive. Put extra batteries on a trailer for extra vary.

 

tomtomgt356 (FS)

Steam energy! So long as you will have water, you’ll be able to run on something that burns!

RevRico

RevRico


UltimaDork


1/27/21 11:16 a.m.

Alcohol nonetheless or electrical. Batteries are simple sufficient to return by that in need of one other ice age discovering provides can be simple, photo voltaic farms and wind farms might be taken over and even moved to raised areas. Something that grows might be satisfied to ferment with fireplace, water, and time. 

I might be making an attempt for electrical personally, much less transferring components to take care of means much less drastic technique of restore and substitute.

MadScientistMatt

Bicycles are likely to get oddly ignored in postapocalyptic films and literature, however they appear like they’d be very helpful when gas is difficult to return by.

David S. Wallens

In reply to MadScientistMatt :

I used to be considering that or a horse. 

Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter)

Take a look at what our Amish neighbors do, and replica that. I see plenty of horses, strolling, little scooters. If issues get actually determined methanol and ethanol aren’t THAT arduous to make. Most likely value printing the how-to and retaining it in your secure.

Antihero (Forum Supporter)

MadScientistMatt stated:

Bicycles are likely to get oddly ignored in postapocalyptic films and literature, however they appear like they’d be very helpful when gas is difficult to return by.

I would not say they’re ignored, I’ve learn many books the place bikes have been used

alfadriver (Forum Supporter)

WRT alcohol- want some particular take a look at the remaining water.  There’ll at all times be leftover water regardless of how good the conventional nonetheless is.  So the automotive must be strong to having water in it, or you will have chemical means to take away the water (it is chemical however primarily based on solids), otherwise you make that particular nonetheless that may truly produce 100% alcohol (which isn’t only a huge reflux still- there are some tips to do more- one nonetheless individual I do know mentions a vacuum system within the course of).

David S. Wallens

Add to the checklist: longboards and people skateboard/sail kite issues. 

chaparral

3600 psi pure gasoline, or methanol produced by the water-gas response. 

Toyman01 (Moderately Supportive Dude)

Wooden gasoline. 

I have already got the plans printed and filed someplace secure. 

I even have a number of actually outdated engines. Assume early 1900. They may burn virtually something and might be repaired with a sledge and a file. 

 

Vajingo

This is the factor guys… in a gasoline starved world, it is similar to madmax. Besides they will hear your ICE. And after they hear you… “They” come working… in search of that gasoline. 
 

I will take my photo voltaic powered, 2000w electrical bike please. You may by no means hear me. If “they” see me, they cannot catch me. 

Ian F (Forum Supporter)

In reply to Vajingo :

Electrical bikes are quiet, however not silent.  In a world with out as a lot exterior noise, they might be heard. 

Even bicycles usually are not at all times silent. Mounted gear bikes – very quiet. As are some bikes with silent “clutch” rear hubs (Onyx is a well-liked model proper now).

In such a world, I might seemingly spend a lot of my time cultivating meals (and storing for the winter) that journey wouldn’t be a prime precedence. 

Appleseed

Setup carburetor to run on alcohol. Arrange nonetheless to create alcohol.  Ferment the our bodies. Drawback solved.

Vajingo

In reply to Ian F (Discussion board Supporter) :

Yep. Quiet sufficient to solely be heard when within the neighborhood. Permitting somebody to get the bounce on can be attackers. By the point they hear youf you have already zoomed by, and so they, with out sufficient time to react. Whereas an ICE can be heard a minimum of a 1/4 mile away, and appeal to each miscreant within the 1/4 mile radius. And in an effort to escape, you would need to flip the automotive off, or spend a number of gas accelerating away.  With an electrical bike, you merely pedal down an alley means and simply stash it, after which start strolling about like an harmless bystander. 

jharry3

The unique settlers of the North American continent used bison dung as gas for 1000’s of  years.   

However then the Bluecoats killed virtually all of the bison…  

GIRTHQUAKE

Ammonia may very well be one other concept to your Mad Max gas; The Haber-Bosch course of is difficult for what we’re doing right here, however Ammonia has no carbon so it can’t foul up and may also be used for cleansing and disinfecting, which shall be wanted with no society. Alcohol and ethanol would most likely be one of the best tho, because you additionally get a medical supply AND can get drunk on it too!

In any other case, I might be e-bike all the way in which, maybe small automobiles utilizing salvaged forklift motors. A Brushed DC motor into a motorcycle is dead-simple and the “energy” change may very well be actuated through altering voltage- there is a man from Pakistan I do know who made his E-bike totally free, and his “energy change” was the fan velocity aspect ripped out of a Nissan Truck he discovered deserted in a subject. For increased tech, plenty of forklifts are going AC for energy as a substitute of DC to get that candy Regen, although I am undecided what number of are IPM motors to your E-wasteland rides.

That jogs my memory, I had an concept for an Environmentalist Mad Max spinoff…

Antihero (Forum Supporter)

Saltwater batteries, you should utilize the tears of your enemies!

Colin Wood

By no means thought concerning the noise an engine would make. Assuming the world involves standstill after the apocalypse, you may most likely hear a working engine for miles away.

I am studying that I’m not as ready for the after occasions as I assumed. I will follow Fallout for now.

Rons

Most individuals right here appear to consider this submit apocalyptic world shall be a utopian paradise. My perception is will probably be a dystopian feudal agrarian steam punk hell. 

There received’t be a lot journey due to the entire agrarian factor and our machines will use electrical energy as a result of we’ll be utilizing the unique components Earth, Wind, and Hearth to acquire usable energy.

I’ll go away it at that lest everybody involves the conclusion that perhaps I believe an excessive amount of.

Antihero (Forum Supporter)

Rons stated:

Most individuals right here appear to consider this submit apocalyptic world shall be a utopian paradise. My perception is will probably be a dystopian feudal agrarian steam punk hell. 

There received’t be a lot journey due to the entire agrarian factor and our machines will use electrical energy as a result of we’ll be utilizing the unique components Earth, Wind, and Hearth to acquire usable energy.

I’ll go away it at that lest everybody involves the conclusion that perhaps I believe an excessive amount of.

Utilizing the tears of your enemies = utopian paradise to you?

Rons

In reply to Antihero (Discussion board Supporter) :

I solely noticed most with the utopian paradise, not the sensible ones who see the trail.

03Panther

Paul_VR6 (Discussion board Supporter) stated:

Simply in case somebody must print these out:

https://sciencing.com/make-wood-alcohol-through-distillation-7762993.html

https://greenliving.lovetoknow.com/How_to_Make_Ethanol

Filling up my emergency gas trailer yesterday, and a man talked about wooden gasoline… hadn’t considered it in years. You simply saved me the time of trying it up!

Antihero (Forum Supporter)

Rons stated:

In reply to Antihero (Discussion board Supporter) :

I solely noticed most with the utopian paradise, not the sensible ones who see the trail.

And I did not even point out biobatteries……

CJ (FS)

My dad entered highschool in Southern California throughout WWII.  After all, the whole lot was rationed then, together with gasoline. 

He informed me that there have been a few Mannequin Ts that outdated guys had constructed wooden gasifiers for.  Dad stated they ran… kind of…

For the reason that T engine had been designed for poor gas in thoughts – low compression and low RPM – I suppose it was a good selection.

GameboyRMH

Within the quick post-apocalypse, as soon as the simple sources of lootable standard fuels dry up/are underneath the management of warlords in assless chaps, the simple choices are going to be working waste veg. oil in outdated diesel automobiles (this shall be a worthwhile commodity), and charging EVs from improvised AC energy sources. It’s going to be comparatively simple to rig up photo voltaic arrays and wind generators from salvaged supplies for many years to return.

Junghole

In reply to GameboyRMH :

Will depend on the sitch. If mutants or zombies run amuck, wind generators make you an simple to identify goal. Photo voltaic arrays are an effective way to entice somebody. Sabotage a wire, wait in ambush for the farmer to return trying why. Slap farmer with a board with a nail in it. Take hostage the remainder of the household. See, I’ve already considered easy methods to turn into evil after the apocalypse. 

David S. Wallens

Have we talked about horses but? 

thatsnowinnebago

David S. Wallens stated:

Have we talked about horses but? 

You would most likely make them into biodiesel however crops are simpler to catch.

Sidewayze

Does not matter.  Within the submit apocalyptic world everone appears to be envisioning, you’ll most certainly drink some dangerous water and poop your colon out within the first month.

daeman

No actual point out of dumb diesel but?

Old-fashioned, non digital diesel can run on nearly any oil with a bit thought and energy.

After the final drop of gasoline or diesel is gone, there’s nonetheless more likely to be vegetable oil floating round. Oil from the sumps of a number of fuelless automobiles which have been discarded. Biodiesel is an alternative choice. Hell, I am betting rendered fats may very well be used.

You’d need one thing stout, sluggish, overbuilt with free tolerances. Assume outdated army automobiles or farm implements. One thing with good floor clearance and 4×4/awd. One thing that can go almost anyplace, even when it is a bit sluggish doing it.

Guide transmission so roll begins are an possibility. No electrical required, you realize, in case the apocalypse was as a result of an emp or no matter.

 

daeman

In reply to Sidewayze :

Realizing easy methods to supply and sterilize water is a cornerstone of survival although. When you’ve made it far sufficient into the apocalypse to be considering transport, you have most likely already mastered shelter, water and fireplace.

80sFast

Ultimately occasions I most likely will not have a lot time for motor sports activities. Perhaps I will take up not dying as a interest as a substitute. 

David S. Wallens

thatsnowinnebago stated:

David S. Wallens stated:

Have we talked about horses but? 

You would most likely make them into biodiesel however crops are simpler to catch.

To journey! Experience the horses. Not flip them into gas….

KyAllroad

David S. Wallens stated:

thatsnowinnebago stated:

David S. Wallens stated:

Have we talked about horses but? 

You would most likely make them into biodiesel however crops are simpler to catch.

To journey! Experience the horses. Not flip them into gas….

Ew, using horses?  These issues are large and silly, falling off will actually suck in an period with out trendy medication.  A mountain bike is the higher possibility if engines are off the desk.

 

(I grew up on a horse farm and have ridden for years, I simply don’t love them.)

David S. Wallens

Did not we as soon as journey horses–like for transportation? This was after the dinosaurs. 

A motorbike can be cool, too. My concern can be a components failure. Snapped chain? Popped tube?

KyAllroad

Horses have been by no means fairly as frequent for transportation as individuals assume.  They have been costly and take a number of repairs, most individuals walked from place to put.

With any degree of industrialization, bicycles are the default transportation gadget.  Take a look at Asia, bicycles in every single place.

GameboyRMH

David S. Wallens stated:

A motorbike can be cool, too. My concern can be a components failure. Snapped chain? Popped tube?

Internal tubes might be repaired till they’re almost fabricated from patches (and shielded from punctures with tube protector), and a tubeless setup can take a ton of punctures and self-seal, though tubeless sealant and piping insulation for DIY tubeless inserts can be scorching commodities, as will components which might be tough/unattainable to DIY similar to tires, inside tubes, chains, and multi-speed sprockets. Massive-money silent hubs can be worthwhile for his or her stealth capabilities.

AAZCD (Forum Supporter)

Searching for some rural gasoline to place within the CR-V within the post-Coronapocalypse.

Justjim75

Electrical golf cart and photo voltaic panels or an outdated 5 ton army multifuel diesel, the sort that run on kerosene or veg oil and so on that doubles as my residence

pilotbraden

Screw being on land when the shot hits the fan

frenchyd

In reply to tomtomgt356 (FS) :

Any actually lengthy stoke motors that we are able to convert to steam?   The longest stroke I can consider is a Pre 1987 Jaguar with a 4.17 stroke.  
 

Rodan

Rodan


SuperDork


11/8/21 1:18 a.m.

lotusseven7 (Discussion board Supporter) stated:

That image jogs my memory of one of many outdated deserted gasoline stations from the film The Final Chase. It is one that the majority have most likely by no means seen. It stars Lee Majors and a Porsche 917-10 “clone”. Tacky film from again in 1981. Go look it up all you automotive guys……

The funniest factor about that film is that the “free” place they have been making an attempt to get to that also had gas powered automobiles was… California.  cheeky

rslifkin

frenchyd stated:

In reply to tomtomgt356 (FS) :

Any actually lengthy stoke motors that we are able to convert to steam?   The longest stroke I can consider is a Pre 1987 Jaguar with a 4.17 stroke.  
 

Raid a Summit or Jegs warehouse for a Chevy 572 crate.  4.375″ stroke. 

frenchyd

In reply to rslifkin :

There must be some actually lengthy stroke Diesel engines to transform into steam. In truth a lot of a Diesel engine may very well be used with the only real exception of pistons.  
    I’m wondering what kind of compression is used for steam.  Guess I will have to do a little analysis 

psteav (Forum Supporter)

frenchyd stated:

In reply to tomtomgt356 (FS) :

Any actually lengthy stoke motors that we are able to convert to steam?   The longest stroke I can consider is a Pre 1987 Jaguar with a 4.17 stroke.  
 

Properly, I for one am shocked that that is the engine you got here up with.

The early 30’s Chrysler flathead straight six (310 ci) and straight eight (385 ci) apparently had a 5″ stroke.   Dunno what could be longer.  

 

EDIT:  The Ford GAA V8 within the Sherman tank had a 6.0″ stroke.  A steam-powered tank can be a really fashionable method to survive the apocalypse.  

GIRTHQUAKE

In reply to psteav (Discussion board Supporter) :

And you then’re utilizing up pure water in your steam system, except you are steam engine-powered tank can also be you are water air purifier someway. Higher to make use of the outdated flatheads for changing them to pure gasoline or propane, since outdated infrastructure fuels would seemingly be simpler to supply and discover than handmade gasoline or diesel derivatives and kits and writeups for these exist already.

stroker

Did not some variant of the Soviet T-34 tank use a charcoal system for gas?

GIRTHQUAKE

In reply to stroker :

Do not know. I DO know that they’d issues selecting between gasoline and diesel for the longest time- I believe the T34 was one of many final gasoline-powered tanks.

rslifkin

On the outdated flathead factor, a few of the early, very low compression, very low energy engines will run on some fairly horrible excuses for gasoline. 

stroker

My first girlfriend’s father used to rebuild outdated farm energy engines–they had huge flywheels and would fireplace as soon as each X revolutions to maintain the flywheel rotating.  He claimed they’d run on rattling close to something, vinegar, vegetable oil, diesel, gasoline, kerosene, no matter.  

 

GIRTHQUAKE

Assume one thing can be seen like an outdated Traction engine? One thing that would actually run off of something burnable?

frenchyd

psteav (Discussion board Supporter) stated:

frenchyd stated:

In reply to tomtomgt356 (FS) :

Any actually lengthy stoke motors that we are able to convert to steam?   The longest stroke I can consider is a Pre 1987 Jaguar with a 4.17 stroke.  
 

Properly, I for one am shocked that that is the engine you got here up with.

The early 30’s Chrysler flathead straight six (310 ci) and straight eight (385 ci) apparently had a 5″ stroke.   Dunno what could be longer.  

 

EDIT:  The Ford GAA V8 within the Sherman tank had a 6.0″ stroke.  A steam-powered tank can be a really fashionable method to survive the apocalypse.  

The Buick straight 8 of 1937-38 had a 5 inch stroke. However I doubt there are a lot of round. Identical with Tank engines.  
I do know there are a good variety of Jaguar engines. Annual manufacturing was round 10,000 with 50% of manufacturing coming right here to America. till 1987 and lots of of them turned collector vehicles.  However I am certain some Diesel engines should be longer stroke. Properly apart from the entire weight factor.  Type of restrict what they can be utilized for. 

AAZCD (Forum Supporter)

The automobile that I remorse promoting probably the most, was my ’86 F250 XLT with the 6.0 idi. These will run on virtually any oil. I by no means stuffed it at a pump. Normally used waste jet gas blended with no matter else was helpful; ATF, waste oil from my final change, filtered cooking oil…. The largest drawback I had was individuals (Mrs AAZCD) complaining concerning the fumes after I left it idling.

M007chan

I am nonetheless trying into fermenting iso-butanol, which has an in depth air/gas ratio to gasoline, and in contrast to ethanol, doesn’t take in water. Sadly, that is nonetheless an space of analysis, so the data I’m looking for is carefully guarded.

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